what,,, where... why ???
my brain just literally stopped when I read the statement. Unbelivable
i stumbled across this in the july 2009 awake!
on page 29 in the article called "is it wrong to change your religion?".
the full quote is as follows:.
what,,, where... why ???
my brain just literally stopped when I read the statement. Unbelivable
i was talking with a friend of mine on the board yesterday and the discussion gave me the idea for this thread !
( thanks friend !
) and it seems as we were talking the thought came up that many of us when exiting the mind control of jehovah's witnesses we really come to appreciate the freedom to think how we want and be able to have access to other views which helps us to have a broader scope , or broader world view than just the tunnel vision of the wt society.
Great thread Mr. Flipper !
The one thing I value more than ever now is having time to actually do things,,,, and not feel angry or guilty because I'm not in service
or studying.
i have thought long and hard about ways to silence a jw who is inquiring about your defection of their religion.. they will look at you as a fool.
someone without faith and trusting in "man alone.
" a jw is programmed to never blame "jehovah" for the works of any man, so if anyone leaves the "truth" because of something the governing body did or is doing, they look at you with pity because you have fallen into an "easily avoidable" trap, all they think you have to do is pray and rely on your creator alone and everything will turn out ok.. so, here is a transcript of something i am working on, it's a conversation with a jw about "your decision.":.
so your not a witness anymore, why ?
Tired of listening to a bunch of men who claim to have an exclusive relationship with God,
end of story.
miley cyrus is the mentor on american idol....shudder.....
never watched the show, maybe I should feel good about it after reading some of these comments
i was in for 30 years.....my ex was an elder...."holy spirit appointed" he tortured me....i was married 33+ years....you know,,,marriage is sacred...you can leave,,,i know,,,,if abuse is intolerable....but that starts a series of events...etc etc etc....i finally left everything...and moved far away.....people actually believe "holy spirit" appoints people,,,my ex would not pray unless there was an audience...you know,,,,people invited over for supper kind of thing,,,you get the point..... my best friend had a mental breakdown,,,,she basically became psychotic.....had to be hospitalized....she took up smoking,,,got disfellowshipped...and lost all emotional support....to this day,,,,as far as i know,,,she is still disfellowshipped...needs to be hospitialized every so often....she is on complete disability.....and still trying to get back into the org....her mother does support some what,,,,even though she is a witness herself,,,,,takes her to assemblies,,,,memorial,,,etc,,,,this has gone on for years.....she cannot mentally handle the organization,,,nor can she mentally handle not being a witness...lost everything....guilt....etc..... did not mean to ramble on so much......i have mental scars that will not go away....because i stayed in a "mess" for god,,,,i could write page after page of things like the above....as being my "last straw".......curious about you here on the board....any specific "breaking point" or a collection of many things..... thanks for your in put...peaches.
great comments ,,, all of them.
My reason was the false love shown by so called "friends" when I really could have used their help and attention.
. I had known many of them for thirty years.
what a waste of time
you may not remember, but i know you very well.
i met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices, and a bible tucked neatly under your arm.
you told me many beautiful stories of a "paradise earth," and a "righteous new system" which would be established shortly.
thank you for posting,
I appreciate your effort
mine was filled with shock and anger but mostly anger.
it made me feel that way because i have never been lied to like that growing up in the religion with it being all you know.
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basically the feeling you get when you drink some milk and suddenly realize that it is spoiled.
as some of you know i have been known as lancelink here for some time.
i basically outgrew my avitar, and felt that i needed to change.. anyway, in sept 08 my mom died, and several months later after seeing firsthand the "love" eminating from this so-called true religion.
i wrote a da letter and walked away.. my parents who lived across the country were so called "pt witnesses on the verge of fading", and in concern for my dad, i told him over the past year that i no longer went to the hall, and wanted nothing to do with the witnesses anymore.. i also told him why i left, and said that mom would have left herself, if she had seen how our so called " jw friends" acted if i or my dad had died first.. but i did not tell him about the letter, i felt that he was not at that point yet, dealing with his wife's death was a little more difficult than what the jw's told him.
As some of you know I have been known as lancelink here for some time. I basically outgrew my avitar, and felt that i needed to change.
Anyway, in Sept 08 my Mom died, and several months later after seeing firsthand the "love" eminating from this so-called true religion
I wrote a DA letter and walked away.
My parents who lived across the country were so called "PT witnesses on the verge of fading", and in concern for my Dad, I told him over the past year that i no longer went to the hall, and wanted nothing to do with the witnesses anymore.
I also told him why I left, and said that Mom would have left herself, if she had seen how our so called " jw friends" acted if I or my Dad had died first.
But I did not tell him about the letter, I felt that he was not at that point yet, dealing with his wife's death was a little more difficult than what the jw's told him. (Sleeping, resurection, paradise, eternity, etc).
One of my sisters was talking to him several weeks ago, and he told her the whole story. She is not a witness,so he is just blowing steam off at her.
So the story goes, he was talking to one of our old cong. elders (he was one of the people who studied with my dad originally).
And this guy just came out and told him the whole story, timeframe, letter contents, the whole ball of wax.
Now he (my dad) doesn't call, and when I call the conversation is very basic, curt, and short.
I was going to tell him all about the letter when I thought that he was doing a little better, but this elder just blew that whole story out of the water !
My point in this little story is : do elders actually try and make family life harder by a search and destroy attitude when someone turns their back on the organization ?
Do they think about the result of their actions at all ?
i know a woman on facebook who recently lost her husband unexpectedly, and at a relatively young age.
(my age, and i still consider myself relatively young.).
so, here she is, still raising some of her children, finding herself looking for work in her mid-forties with few salable job skills in a depressed economy, and missing her husband terribly.
poor woman,
my picture is a good example of how i feel after reading her story
my area had some philipino missionaries several years ago.
They told me that they had just come from a really bad part of Chicago where one day they appoached a car with several people in it.
It seems that they were gang lookouts, and when the mormons came up to the car, these guys all raised their guns up to the window.
When they realized they were mormons, they all laughed and put their guns away.